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	<title>Comments on: Away from iphone and towards a better platform analogy</title>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<description>Fred..  If you&#039;re trying Ubuntu I sugegst you try 8.04 rather than the more recent.  8.10 and 9.04 broke a lot of things for me.  I do think you give Apple more credit than is due. To take the things you reckon Apple did &#039;right&#039;:

1. Actually I think the &#039;simplicity&#039; was just cocked-up requirements definition.  As an example, until the recent 3.x iPhone, it wasn&#039;t possible to send SMS to multiple recipients, or to forward a received SMS. One thing Apple missed in the &#039;simplicity&#039; was proper UI guidelines.  Even in the official Apple Apps, given a list of &#039;items&#039; - emails, texts, notes, or whatever, there was at least 3 mechanisms for deleting an item. There are (still) two places where PIN entry is required - one requires &#039;OK&#039; and one doesn&#039;t.  Small things maybe, but hardly a model development platform.

That level of simplicity is also inappropriate for many environments (especially HIT). One would be better looking towards platforms link GNOME or KDE for a model inspiration (or not).

2. Granted, but as you point out, it&#039;s hardly innovative.  BTW as I&#039;m sure you&#039;re discovering, Ubuntu has that also ( http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ ). Yum doesn&#039;t? :-)

3. Point taken.  Although I&#039;m not sure I want rock star developers! I guess they &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/26/farts-v-explosions-which-iphone-app-was-rejected-from-the-app-store-youd-be-surprised/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fart&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;http://digital.venturebeat.com/2008/12/23/iphone-fart-app-pulls-in-nearly-10000-a-day/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;too&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred..  If you&#8217;re trying Ubuntu I sugegst you try 8.04 rather than the more recent.  8.10 and 9.04 broke a lot of things for me.  I do think you give Apple more credit than is due. To take the things you reckon Apple did &#8216;right&#8217;:</p>
<p>1. Actually I think the &#8216;simplicity&#8217; was just cocked-up requirements definition.  As an example, until the recent 3.x iPhone, it wasn&#8217;t possible to send SMS to multiple recipients, or to forward a received SMS. One thing Apple missed in the &#8216;simplicity&#8217; was proper UI guidelines.  Even in the official Apple Apps, given a list of &#8216;items&#8217; &#8211; emails, texts, notes, or whatever, there was at least 3 mechanisms for deleting an item. There are (still) two places where PIN entry is required &#8211; one requires &#8216;OK&#8217; and one doesn&#8217;t.  Small things maybe, but hardly a model development platform.</p>
<p>That level of simplicity is also inappropriate for many environments (especially HIT). One would be better looking towards platforms link GNOME or KDE for a model inspiration (or not).</p>
<p>2. Granted, but as you point out, it&#8217;s hardly innovative.  BTW as I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re discovering, Ubuntu has that also ( <a href="http://popcon.ubuntu.com/" rel="nofollow">http://popcon.ubuntu.com/</a> ). Yum doesn&#8217;t? <img src='http://www.fredtrotter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>3. Point taken.  Although I&#8217;m not sure I want rock star developers! I guess they <a href='http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/26/farts-v-explosions-which-iphone-app-was-rejected-from-the-app-store-youd-be-surprised/' rel="nofollow">fart</a> <a href='http://digital.venturebeat.com/2008/12/23/iphone-fart-app-pulls-in-nearly-10000-a-day/' rel="nofollow">too</a>.</p>
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